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hello.
I am intersted in trying to load some of the 150g accubonds for my 308, a Remington LTR with a 20" barrel

got the gun last week and quickly found a load that does 5 shots that can be covered with a dime with 44.5 g of Varget and a Sierra Gameking BTSP, Lapua brass and CCI BR primers

I like the idea of the higher BC and lighter weight of the 150 AB

mainly for deer as I use a 6.8 AR for hogs most of the time, I would certainly wack a hog if the oppurtunity presented itself !

I have Hodgdon and Nosler data in front of me
I would like to think I can get 2900 FPS safely, maybe not...

anyone loading with the same components as I have?

thanks in advance

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Originally posted by ccoker ccoker wrote:

hello.
I am intersted in trying to load some of the 150g accubonds for my 308, a Remington LTR with a 20" barrel

got the gun last week and quickly found a load that does 5 shots that can be covered with a dime with 44.5 g of Varget and a Sierra Gameking BTSP, Lapua brass and CCI BR primers

I like the idea of the higher BC and lighter weight of the 150 AB

mainly for deer as I use a 6.8 AR for hogs most of the time, I would certainly wack a hog if the oppurtunity presented itself !

I have Hodgdon and Nosler data in front of me
I would like to think I can get 2900 FPS safely, maybe not...

anyone loading with the same components as I have?

thanks in advance

Charles
 
If it aint broke don't fix it.If anything I would go to a 165 accubond with the same load and let her eat.
 
 
 
 
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yeah, I am thinking the same thing
I killed several deer with the gamekings 2 years ago and they performed perfectly

I posted this same question on longrangehunting.com and a guy responded with the same gun and he had to got a faster burning powder

I have a big can of Varget and want to use it

screw it
I am just going to stick with what works, these won't be hitting at 300 win mag velocities and so they will hold together fine

if I have lose a big hog because I hit the shoulder and the bullet didn't penetrate through to the vitals then I will consider switching

I could always use the gameking HP 165s, they are stouter than the SPs (for hogs)
but, I try to put it below and behind their ear, in which case, just about anything will kill em deader than dead




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for MY .308 I shoot a 165 gr accubond with 45.5 varget and cci BR primers and it dose really well. I also have a 168 bereger load with 45.2 gr of varget with cci br primers and it is awesome also. I honestly can't ask for a better load or loads for this rifle. It dose what i ask it to do.
 
 
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That Gameking at .308 velocities is going to knock deer dead with boring regularity.  With the accuracy you described, shot placement should not be a problem.  Good luck hunting!Head Bang
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thanks
my previous 308, a Tikka I foolishly sold used 45.5g of Varget and the gameking

I haven't gone up over the 44.5 load yet

this was a 5 round group

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I think you are ready to hunt!
 
Gotta love one-hole groups.
 
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FWIW, I have found the Accubonds to be at their best seated very close to the lands (about 0.010 to 0.020 off, depending of which rifle), although none are .308 Win. I have also found the loads Nosler flags as most accurate in the 6th edition manual to be most accurate in my rifles also when I seat the Accubonds that way. I think you could work up a good load pretty quick, the rifle appears to be a shooter all right and I'd say you have figured out how to hold it right! The Accubonds can definitely shoot one-hole groups that will keep up with the SGKs.
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thanks for the accubond info
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at what distance was the above group from? 
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500 yards

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Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

Originally posted by ccoker ccoker wrote:

hello.
I am intersted in trying to load some of the 150g accubonds for my 308, a Remington LTR with a 20" barrel

got the gun last week and quickly found a load that does 5 shots that can be covered with a dime with 44.5 g of Varget and a Sierra Gameking BTSP, Lapua brass and CCI BR primers

I like the idea of the higher BC and lighter weight of the 150 AB

mainly for deer as I use a 6.8 AR for hogs most of the time, I would certainly wack a hog if the oppurtunity presented itself !

I have Hodgdon and Nosler data in front of me
I would like to think I can get 2900 FPS safely, maybe not...

anyone loading with the same components as I have?

thanks in advance

Charles
 
If it aint broke don't fix it.If anything I would go to a 165 accubond with the same load and let her eat.
 
 
 
 
Bandito +1  Aint broke...
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Nice going, specially for 500 yds! (Just kidding some more).
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I shoot 1 hole groups at 500 yards all the time.............maybe just because only 1 bullet actually hits the target.......Bandito
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Originally posted by trigger29 trigger29 wrote:

I shoot 1 hole groups at 500 yards all the time.............maybe just because only 1 bullet actually hits the target.......Bandito

hahahahahahaExcellent  made my night right there
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You may want to switch to VARGET and go with MATCHKINGS as they are obviously BT and are of a lighter composite making for a more efficient trajectory.......Lapuaslap you may want to correct me on the composite part of that,but isnt that the typical diff between game and machking besides the point options?
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I run Varget
sticking with the 165 GKs
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I also run 45.5 gr. Varget/CCI BR2 primers/165 gr. Accubonds w/Lapua brass through my LTR. Great round - accurate, deadly and 2650 fps MV...not bad for a 20" barrel.
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cool, so you are getting 2650?
excellent, I figured it was around there, maybe a little less
I just got a chrono in today
I wacked a cull buck a few weeks ago with it... lights out of course
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Last time I was out it was about 30F and the 20 rounds I fired chronoed at an avg. of 2642, so a little lower than my typical results between temps of 40-70F. Still, ES and SD stayed low. I went up as high as 46 gr. but started showing some pressure signs and less accuracy. My most accurate groups have always been @ 44.5 but 45.5 isn't much worse and I wanted to squeeze out another 50 fps.

I may go end up with a lower load in my new rifle because it has a 24" barrel and that will up the velocities 75-100 fps. I don't see any need to go beyond 2700 fps in a .308 shooting relatively high BC bullets out to sub-600 yard distances. Wind is an issue, but with good target knobs elevation is not. I'm also not worried about penetration on big game animals since my self-imposed limits are 400 for antelope, 350 for deer and 300 for elk.

The Accubond really has worked well for me. I shot an antelope @ 200 yards that dropped in his tracks, a mule deer doe @ 330 yards that ran about 5 yards, and a white tail doe @ 75 yards that also just dropped. That it worked so well at all those ranges says a lot. BTW, another reason not to use too hot a load on bullets like that is the lack of expansion at close range. It's a balancing act between short and long range effectiveness, accuracy, safety and brass life. I asked the Nosler rep that I know what experience he had with other bullets (BTs, Partitions) at close range. He said even a Partition will sometimes not expand on an animal hit under 50 yards. I can personally vouch that BTs definitely won't!


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Actually it's hard to find a bad load with 150-168 grain bullets. The ,308 doesn't push them fast enough to break up bullets on most game, and accuracy is always good, if not outstanding.
 
In my Merkel K1 single-shot 150 AccuBonds and 46 grains of Varget average around 3/4" at 2900 fps. This is out of a very slim 24" barrel. In my wife's Serengeti Artemis, built on a Kimber 84 action, the same charge, with various 150's from the Sierra ProHunter to the Nosler E-Tip, will also shoot very well but 100 fps slower. We have used these two rifles to take game from 30-40 pound varmints to 700 pounds in North America and Africa, at ranges out to 300 yards or so.
 
 
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I am shooting a Remington VTR 308 cal, handloading Hodgdon H4895 utilizing the Nosler 150 grain Ballistic Tip bullet. with a good rest at 100 yds I am getting 1/4 to 1/2 inch groups.
 
I think I might want to try your set up as I have to use more than one dime to cover my B holes.
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Reloader 15 tightened my groups a little bit more than 4895
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41grns. Imr 4895, cci primer, 150gr hpbt sierra MK out of my Savage 10fp with 20" barrel stays right at .5-.6 @100 yards. I am pretty sure it would do better with different powders but why try to fix what isn't broke. Besides I have 12-13 lbs of this waiting to be used. I have found loads for the 4895 for all of my rifles trying to use it up.
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