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Trying to decide on what 1.5 - 6x scope to place on a woods deer / pig rifle (Tikka T3 Lite in 7mm-08).  It seems the available options are:

 

Bushnell Elite 4200 1.5-6x36

Burris Euro Diamond 1.5-6x40

Meopta Artemis 2000 1.5-6x42

Nikon Monarch Gold 30mm 1.5-6x42

Kahles Euro Helia C 1.5-6x42

Swarovski PH 1.5-6x42

S&B 1.5-6x42

Zeiss VM/V 1.5-6x42

 

Although I would love to use the really high quality glass, they are out of my price range, so that leaves the other four:

 

Bushnell Elite 4200 1.5-6x36

Burris Euro Diamond 1.5-6x40

Meopta Artemis 2000 1.5-6x42

Nikon Monarch Gold 30mm 1.5-6x42

 

The only technical question I can't locate an answer to is what distance the Meopta is set at parallax free (100 or 110yds?).  I don't think I'll go with the Burris as it only has 1/2 MOA adjustments.

 

I plan on sighting the rifle in 3" high @ 150yds, to place the bullet 3" low just short of 300yds, although I wouldn't expect to take game at anything more than 200yds; in short just a plain recticle will do.

 

Looking for subjective opinions, personal experience and unknown technical details to help me decide which one of these four to go with.

 

Thanks.

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My pick is the Monarch Gold, 120MOA of internal adjustment and a 30mm tube oh yea! This scope when you see it in person looks a little short compared to other scopes but it is a fantastic scope and there is one on Sample List right now at a significant savings plus I really like the adjustment knobs on the Monarch Gold.  One other possible is Sightron also does make aSII  1.5-6x42 and it is quite reasonably priced.
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Thanks for your thoughts on the Nikon.

 

Any tips on the exit pupil diameter ranges?

 

The Bushnell and Meopta have a small range, around 13 to 7mm; while the Nikon and the Burris have a much larger range around 26 - 7.  Would the larger diameter be more desireable?  Does the larger diameter make it harder to acquire the recticle?  Or is the larger size better for faster aiming speed?

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Hello

 

      This scope is a new release and has exellent glass and great low light capabilities

This is one of the best bargains in quality scopes if you do not mind a fixed power scope.

A very simple and effective tool in my opinion. You will need high rings.

 

http://www.swfa.com/pc-8399-1134-new-meopta-7x56-meostar-r1- rifle-scope.aspx

 

http://www.meopta.com/index.php?id=178&lang=en

 

For all other watchers of post this scope will make a exellent value minded combo with this new release by Savage

and high gloss burris signature rings. This combo would allow you to hunt with a custom level of quality at a bargain.

 

http://www.savagearms.com/114EuroClassic.htm

 

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Wasn't interested in a fixed power scope, thanks.

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This is a very useful scope power range, that has been neglected for a while.  The makers are starting to realize this, as are some shooters.

 

One thing you will have to be careful about is too much weight on top of a light rifle.  This can ruin the balance of the rifle by making it top-heavy.  Watch the weights as you shop through these scopes. 

 

The Burris 1.5-6x Signature Select is an abolutely fine scope!  You won't find much better.  (However, it does weigh  17+ ounces.)

 

The Weaver Grand Slam in 1.5-5x is a good little close-in scope.  The reticle is a little too fine for shooting in really bad light, though.

 

The Bushnell Legend is just about perfect in terms of power and field of view.   However, it is not a top-line scope.

 

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I feel that with the variables you presented as your will settle scopes you will always be disapointed with

the quality compared to some of the scopes on your initial want list. A quality Variable is not cheap but

well worth the price in my opinion. Let us know what you get, and post a pic if you can.

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Originally posted by Urimaginaryfrnd Urimaginaryfrnd wrote:

My pick is the Monarch Gold, 120MOA of internal adjustment and a 30mm tube oh yea! This scope when you see it in person looks a little short compared to other scopes but it is a fantastic scope and there is one on Sample List right now at a significant savings plus I really like the adjustment knobs on the Monarch Gold.  One other possible is Sightron also does make aSII  1.5-6x42 and it is quite reasonably priced.


Did you get that 1.5-6x42 Sightron?  I remember you talking about it a while ago.

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Originally posted by 0100010 0100010 wrote:

Thanks for your thoughts on the Nikon.

 

Any tips on the exit pupil diameter ranges?

 

The Bushnell and Meopta have a small range, around 13 to 7mm; while the Nikon and the Burris have a much larger range around 26 - 7.  Would the larger diameter be more desireable?  Does the larger diameter make it harder to acquire the recticle?  Or is the larger size better for faster aiming speed?



Your eye can not dilate to greater than 7mm, so an exit pupil larger than that really makes no difference whatsoever.

If I were you I would probably go with a Elite 4200 1.5-6x36 if you want to save some money or with some sort of very high-end glass that costs >$1000.  Anything in between is not sufficiently better than Elite 4200 to make a difference.

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So, go nice glass (Zeiss, S&B, Swarovski or Kahles) or go Elite 4200; as the scopes in that price range don't stand out from each other enough to matter.

 

Nice, simple, concise and understood.

 

Was leaning either Bushnell or Nikon, I guess the Bushnell it will be.

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