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    Posted: June/13/2016 at 20:29
Hi, my name is Rich. I want to get a new scope, a super sniper. I am shooting ground squirrels, woodchucks, and coyotes. I used to have a 20 power super sniper, but it had a problem with the mirage. I am wondering if a 16 power will have mirage, or should i go to the 12 power? Ground squirrels are up to 200 yards away.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NDhunter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/13/2016 at 20:37

That is too much power for that distance.  For 200 yds. a nice 3-9 power

scope would be a good choice.  You will have less mirage, and a better clearer

view of the target.  SWFA sells many scopes in that size, so check it out.

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Ground squirrels, also known as sage rats, are about 5in tall. and woodchucks blend into the wood pile and its hard to tell unless you see their face. A 3x9 wont do the job.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NDhunter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/13/2016 at 21:07

Good luck, you also have to know how to shoot a rifle.

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all i want to know is does 16 power have mirage heat waves
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You are correct, the higher the power more mirage.
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I would go 12 or maybe even 10 if u are dealing with bad mirage. 16x will help, but if its a strong mirage that could be to much too. Especially on 5 inch targets.
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Up until about 5 years ago, I went prairie dog shooting twice a year every year in the spring, and I had no trouble shooting them at 800+ yards using 12 - 14X. Mirage is always a factor on warm days. No scope can eliminate the effects of mirage, as that is an environmental condition that is independent of the optic. A lower powered scope still shows mirage at distance, it just doesn't magnify the effect as much. I have found that 14-15X or so is my own personal upper magnification limit for shooting varmints at extreme distance no matter the conditions. Much more than that, and I didn't gain any usable detail for me to compensate for loss of FOV due to the mirage and increased eye fatigue. If I was shooting rodents at 200 yards, I would choose a 10X scope, not only because it is more than enough power for me for 5" targets, but also because it provides a more forgiving exit pupil and leads to less eye fatigue over a long day of shooting. 

But, that's me.

You will still see mirage at distance on a hot day, though...no matter which you choose. It will just be less annoying on lower power.
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I hate my Nikon monarch at 16x.
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If you can scrounge the extra money, the SS 3-9 would be your best bet. The 3x9 has HD glass. You will be amazed at how much more detail you can see with better glass than magnification. Only problem comes that once you experience the clarity of the better glass, you will be wanting to replace all of your scopes of lesser quality. Big SmileBig SmileBig Smile
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