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Well, I might have given some wrong info in previous threads. Before ordering mine, I had called Vortex and asked for the amount of adjustment on that scope, since I have 25 moa bases on most of my trainers, and I still want to zero at 50 yards, then dial. I was told 70 moa, and that's what I assumed when discussing this scope.

After a thread on the Hide where Scott @ Vortex mentioned 50 moa, I called to double check - it is really 50 moa, which makes it unusable for my purposes:( I'll have to send my order back. This model is not suited to being used for shooting 22LR at 200 yards.

I am sorry that I disseminated wrong information on this scope:(

Edit on 10/18: Scott's information was somewhat erroneous: See below


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The scopes have more than 50 MOA.

Pictured below are pictures through the scope on a boresighter.

One picture is of the elevation bottomed out, the other picture the elevation bottomed out in the opposite direction.

As you can see the reticle moves across almost 16 full 4" grids and runs off the grid a total of 32 clicks. The scope clicks into the 16th square a total of 8 clicks. With each square being 4 inches and the scope having 1/4MOA of adjustment (.25”) this gives us a total click value of 280.

280 x .25 = 70moa

The scope does have a total of 332 clicks although. There are 52 unusable clicks this scope has (phantom clicks). After the scope clicked 8 times into the 16th square it was able to click another 52 times without the reticle actually moving.




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nice Brady, thanks.

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OK - Scott at Vortex seems partially wrong. The spec might call for 50 moa, but in actuality the majority of the copies appear to be above 64 moa: Lone Wolf on the Hide has a unit with 64 moa, I have a unit with 64 moa and a unit with 68 moa, Brady has one with 70 moa. 

Brady also says that if, for some reason, one of our copies tested much lower, we could trade it for another. So, my conclusion is: they are good for 250 yards with a 22LR trainer, and they can deal with a 25 moa base.

Phew - I am glad I was wrong:-)


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A lot of companies will actually claim less than what a scope actually has just to be safe.  I had 3 different IOR 3-18x scopes.  All 3 of them had a different amount of total adjustment range.  But as much a 10 MOA.  They claimed 70 MOA, one had 66 of the two had in the mid 70s.

The new 10x SS HD claims like 30 mils of adjustment, mine has 37 mils of adjustment. 
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

A lot of companies will actually claim less than what a scope actually has just to be safe. 

+ 1.  Although normally the margin of error is much smaller, something around 5-6 moa is fairly normal. Here it is more like 15 moa: to me the difference is unusually large. It's large enough that 50moa would not do the job for me, where 65moa can.
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