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    Posted: February/02/2008 at 01:56

Gentlemen, I'm a first time poster.  I have been reading the OT for several months now and am impressed with the collective knowledge on this forum. 

 

I am in the long, slow and expensive process of upgrading my hunting optics.  Does anyone out there have first hand experience comparing the scopes listed below?

 

     1.  Kahles 1.5-6x42 C

     2.  Swarovski 1.5-6x42 PH

     3.  Zeiss 1.5-6x42 VM/V

 

The scope will be replacing a Leupold 1.5-5x20 Vari-X III on a short, light weight .338 Federal.  The rifle is used for hunting elk, deer and black bear in timber and heavy pinion/juniper brush.  I have settled on the 1.5-6x42 format as a nice fit for the rifle and the type of hunting that I do with it.  I also considered the Kahles 2-7x36 CL.   

 

I know that all three scopes are a significant upgrade over the Leupold, although I have owned and used many Leupolds over the years and have nothing bad to say about them.  I have handled and looked through all three scopes, but not side by side and never under field conditions.  I have read many of the threads comparing and giving opinions on the three manufacturers but I'm hoping someone has experience with these three specific models.

 

I am leaning toward the Kahles, only because of the price, but would not hesitate to save my pennies for a while longer if there were a reason.  The five most important things I'm looking for in a scope are, in order;

 

     1. reliability

     2. reliability

     3. reliability

     4. optical quality

     5. reliability 

 

I would greatly appreciate any opinions, practical or esoteric, before spending my money.      

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dale Clifford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/02/2008 at 10:54
just a thought-- but I'd go with a 1.5x6 leo spr MK4 with ill ret. the 308 m1 turret would be almost perfect for the 338 within the ranges that are relevant.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cyborg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/02/2008 at 11:07
I like the Kahles, and Zeiss options, but Dale makes a great recommendation.
 You might also look at what Trijicon has to offer as well.


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Of those 3, I think the Zeiss has the slight edge optically, and it has the best combination of eye relief, forgiving eye position, and field of view.  However, I might go for the Kahles because of price.  Really, all 3 are so close optically that I would probably base my selection more on which reticle I liked best among their various offerings.  When you get into this price bracket, they are all superb, but I would definitely look at all 3 first before spending your money, because when you fork over that much cash, you need to make sure you are totally content with your choice.
 
One scope I would also consider in that class is the S&B 1.5-6X42 Zenith.  While I own scopes from all of the series of scopes above, not in 1.5-6X42.  I have the S&B Zenith in 1.5-6X42 config, however.  It is heavier than the others and has a little less windage and elevation travel, but I think it is slightly better than Zeiss in terms of resolution, it has the nifty reticle position indicators on the W/E knobs, and I really like their #9 reticle.  In low light, to my eyes, I have found it to be equal to Zeiss at the same magnification.
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I have owned Swarovski PH and S&B Classic scopes. They were good, but have sold them and use Zeiss Diavari Victory today. I see more clearly through the Zeiss.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote edgefive0 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/03/2008 at 02:58

Thank you for the responses.  I had eliminated the S&B because of the weight, and the fact that I have never seen one.

The Mark 4 is a good sugestion that I never concidered.  I have  3.5-10 that has given me great service.  The VX-7 looks interesting also.  But I have my heart set on a high end German optik for this rifle.

I will try to find a Zeiss and a Kahles that I can take a good long side by side look through before I buy.  They have the same eye releif and are close in length and weight.

The #9 reticle does look quick.  I have never used anything but  duplex and Mil-Dot reticles.  I have also never hunted with a FFP scope.  I probably should have asked for reticle sugestions also.  Looks like I have more research to do.

Thanks again.   
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Kahles or Zeiss IMHO!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tip69 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/03/2008 at 08:45
Duce........ I love your signature!  Mine would be worth watching because of my kids, but a few hunts in the Western states and Alaska would make it a lot better!
take em!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Chris Farris II Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/04/2008 at 08:16

Thanx, I am definately with you on the hunts and maybe meeting Angelina in person?

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Angelina......... WOW  
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I'm not sure who Angelina is or what she shoots, but to quote the Colonel; "A  year without hunting is a wasted year."
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I would add that its "criminal" as well.
 
btw....... you can check out Angelina at:
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Originally posted by Chris Farris II Chris Farris II wrote:

Kahles or Zeiss IMHO!
 
I think they are all so close it is a toss up. The Kahles has better value for me but the Swarovski and Zeiss do have excellent glass, too. All three have nice adjustments that feel solid and are smooth. They all look great on guns to boot.
 
 
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